S4L wrote:Interesting IW list indeed and a bit surprised that several names are not on the list. Find it odd how many lat transfers got selected who still do not understand the components of the IW community, yet will now be responsible for impacting the community on a much larger scale. Very few SIGINT savvy folks on this list also, which makes me wonder how our JOs will interpret that as far as choosing their career path. Do not think this board helped the IW community for the long run.
S4L wrote:I do not believe serving as a CRC equates to understanding SIGINT but that is not the point I was making. Plenty of CRCs who know SIGINT and plenty of CRCs who do not. Throw in cyber and now you have even fewer who understand both sides. From my point of view, outside of a handful of names the SIGINT heavy folks are not on the list and only a handful of our top Cyber JO's who actually understand Cyber made it.
The lateral transfer comment is based on my experience before retirement and in my current position where I deal with a decent amount of Navy IW officers. I do not feel the majority have a decent understanding of their craft nor try to learn it. Several projects we are involved in now these lat transfers sit in the room like a statue and defer their decisions to the contracting parties. While that is not bad, as these contractors are retired Navy, it shows clear as day they lack the understanding on what they should be doing.
This is strictly my opinion from what I have witnessed the past few years.
LIVINGIW wrote:Interesting list for IWs... 8 AZ? 2 BZ? Is that indicative of a weak IZ crowd?
rturcic72 wrote:I've heard plenty of O-4s complain about why they FOS and they had every check in the block and then some. Well, I would ask, that's all good and everything, but how is your paper? If it's mediocre and stuck in the middle, I only care about half of those checks like Joint progress, Masters, Milestone, and good paper at or above RSA showing rightward progression. I've seen O-4s that had a STEM Masters, JPME I and II w/ JSO, O-4 Milestone and FOS because FITREPs were ok, but not spectacular.
Stalwart wrote:LIVINGIW wrote:Interesting list for IWs... 8 AZ? 2 BZ? Is that indicative of a weak IZ crowd?
IRT the 8x AZ selections, I also wonder if that could indicate that the FY15 board was particularly competitive and that just because someone was a non-select in that (or any) year is not indicating that they are a below average or even subpar officer.
IRT the 2x BZ selections, I know one very well and one kinda-sorta okay, if someone was going to be selected early both of them exemplify what I think we should be striving for in our profession.
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